As far as I know, there are no colour standards for wiring in regards to RS232 implementations, only pin assignments. A lot of people (including myself) wire DB9 connectors to mimic a guideline colour scheme used for RS232 on RJ45 (EIA-561). Mar 17, 2011 - Nowadays we wouldn't use flat cable; we'd wire this with CAT-5 and use punchdown. There are 25 (count 'em) pins on this connector. Although it's rare, I have seen 4 wire cable where each wire is the same color. Put them in the wrong hole because it's nine o'clock at night and you've already wired.
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- edited 2003-09-14 - 02:18:00Yea, It's call an OHM METER. Would that be CHINA STANDARD or KOREA STANDARD
or JAPAN STANDARD or CANADIAN STANDARD or USA STANDARD ?
Original MessageFrom: Christian Wentz [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:cwentz86@h...]
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Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] serial cable color coding
Would anyone happen to know of a resource that lists the standard serial
cable color coding?
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me would do them (at least the first 10) in resistor color code, black,
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> - edited 2003-09-14 - 02:28:00There is no general standard for wire color on PC cabling, with the
exception of marking pin 1 on ribbon cables, and the color of power
supply and fan wiring. Everything else is probably gonna be factory or
manufacturer specific.
What Jim is trying to say is that because everyone has a different color
code, you need to use an ohm meter or continuity tester to figure out
what color wire goes to which pin on the cable that you have.
> Yea, It's call an OHM METER. Would that be CHINA STANDARD or KOREA STANDARD
> or JAPAN STANDARD or CANADIAN STANDARD or USA STANDARD ?
> Would anyone happen to know of a resource that lists the standard serial
> cable color coding? - edited 2003-09-14 - 02:34:00It may depend on if they use the metric or US color code as well? <grin>
And don't get me started on the metric versus US electricity.
> I don't think there is a standard, but an old tech who used to work for
> me would do them (at least the first 10) in resistor color code, black,
> brown, red, etc.
> > Would anyone happen to know of a resource that lists the
> > standard serial
> > cable color coding? - edited 2003-09-14 - 04:15:00In a message dated 9/13/2003 6:27:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
alw@a... writes:
I don't think there is a standard, but an old tech who used to work for
me would do them (at least the first 10) in resistor color code, black,
brown, red, etc.
Al Williams
AWC
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I do the same, and think it is a good idea. If you are consistent with this
method, at least one knows number 1 through 10
[noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - edited 2003-09-14 - 05:03:00I do not think the color coding of cables is arbitrarily.
If you look a telephoneman splicing hundreds of wires , they follow
a color code scheme.
Perhaps there is an ANSI standard (they have standards for almost
everythinng). - edited 2003-09-14 - 16:23:00If you are a telephone man, with a 50-pair telephone
cable, you'd better have a standard for what pair
of wires goes where. If you're installing a
50 foot 8-wire cable between a PC and a Modem, you have
a lot more lattitude.
If you are installing an 'RS-232' 'Standard' cable
(ansi standard RS-232, RS-232b, RS-232c) well:
You could install a DB25 with all pins connected,
all pins defined -- but I don't think they spec
the color.
You could install a DB25 with only the common 8
lines -- RX,TX, CTS,RTS, DCD,DTR,DTS, and Ground.
Oops, forgot 'RI' (ring) used by the PC as IRQ input.
Or you could do DB9. Or you could do RJ45 (like
DEC and Stallion did). Or you could do 'three-wire'
(TX, RX and Ground).
The point is: the RS-232 'Standard' came out so
early that it's evolved quite a lot, and been
used in MANY form factors. It's amazing
that it's as portable, and still works, as it is.
There IS a specification, but I really don't think
it calls out wire colors.
--- In [email protected], 'Albert Catano'
<acatano2002@y...> wrote:
> I do not think the color coding of cables is arbitrarily.
> If you look a telephoneman splicing hundreds of wires , they
follow
> a color code scheme.
> Perhaps there is an ANSI standard (they have standards for almost
> everythinng). - edited 2003-09-14 - 18:02:00Well I would think there would be a standard ! if nothing more than just pin
to color standard ! But I can't find anything. I have used wire color to pin
numbers, but can't find the chart, and it wasn't specific to rs232.
Larry Gaminde
Original MessageFrom: 'Bill Boyer' <daweasel@s...>
To: 'Basic Stamp List' <[email protected]>
Sent: September 13, 2003 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] serial cable color coding
> There is no general standard for wire color on PC cabling, with the
> exception of marking pin 1 on ribbon cables, and the color of power
> supply and fan wiring. Everything else is probably gonna be factory or
> manufacturer specific.
>
> What Jim is trying to say is that because everyone has a different color
> code, you need to use an ohm meter or continuity tester to figure out
> what color wire goes to which pin on the cable that you have.
>
>
> > Yea, It's call an OHM METER. Would that be CHINA STANDARD or KOREA
STANDARD
> > or JAPAN STANDARD or CANADIAN STANDARD or USA STANDARD ?
>
> > Would anyone happen to know of a resource that lists the standard serial
> > cable color coding?
>
>
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> - edited 2003-09-15 - 02:00:00Now I lay me down to sleep
With a roll of cable at my feet
If I should die before I wake
White, Blue, Orange, Green, Brown, Slate.
Original MessageFrom: 'Allan Lane' <allan.lane@h...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:23 AM
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: serial cable color coding
> If you are a telephone man, with a 50-pair telephone
> cable, you'd better have a standard for what pair
> of wires goes where. If you're installing a
> 50 foot 8-wire cable between a PC and a Modem, you have
> a lot more lattitude.
>
> If you are installing an 'RS-232' 'Standard' cable
> (ansi standard RS-232, RS-232b, RS-232c) well:
> You could install a DB25 with all pins connected,
> all pins defined -- but I don't think they spec
> the color.
>
> You could install a DB25 with only the common 8
> lines -- RX,TX, CTS,RTS, DCD,DTR,DTS, and Ground.
> Oops, forgot 'RI' (ring) used by the PC as IRQ input.
>
> Or you could do DB9. Or you could do RJ45 (like
> DEC and Stallion did). Or you could do 'three-wire'
> (TX, RX and Ground).
>
> The point is: the RS-232 'Standard' came out so
> early that it's evolved quite a lot, and been
> used in MANY form factors. It's amazing
> that it's as portable, and still works, as it is.
> There IS a specification, but I really don't think
> it calls out wire colors.
>
>
> --- In [email protected], 'Albert Catano'
> <acatano2002@y...> wrote:
> > I do not think the color coding of cables is arbitrarily.
> > If you look a telephoneman splicing hundreds of wires , they
> follow
> > a color code scheme.
> > Perhaps there is an ANSI standard (they have standards for almost
> > everythinng).
>
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> - edited 2003-09-15 - 02:01:00As Allan and others have said, there is not a standard for wire colors.
Each factory lot will use the same color sequence, but different
factories/lots will vary. We use a M-F DB9 cable for a commercial
device, by cutting the cable at one end, discarding the connector, and
wiring the cable to our circuits, using a few hundred per year. We try
to buy from the same place, but periodically check the colors and pins
to avoid circuit disasters. We like and use black cables from Jameco,
to match our black instrument cases.
Dennis
Original MessageFrom: Allan Lane [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:allan.lane@h...]
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: serial cable color coding
If you are a telephone man, with a 50-pair telephone
cable, you'd better have a standard for what pair
of wires goes where. If you're installing a
50 foot 8-wire cable between a PC and a Modem, you have
a lot more lattitude.
If you are installing an 'RS-232' 'Standard' cable
(ansi standard RS-232, RS-232b, RS-232c) well:
You could install a DB25 with all pins connected,
all pins defined -- but I don't think they spec
the color.
You could install a DB25 with only the common 8
lines -- RX,TX, CTS,RTS, DCD,DTR,DTS, and Ground.
Oops, forgot 'RI' (ring) used by the PC as IRQ input.
Or you could do DB9. Or you could do RJ45 (like
DEC and Stallion did). Or you could do 'three-wire'
(TX, RX and Ground).
The point is: the RS-232 'Standard' came out so
early that it's evolved quite a lot, and been
used in MANY form factors. It's amazing
that it's as portable, and still works, as it is.
There IS a specification, but I really don't think
it calls out wire colors.
--- In [email protected], 'Albert Catano'
<acatano2002@y...> wrote:
> I do not think the color coding of cables is arbitrarily.
> If you look a telephoneman splicing hundreds of wires , they
follow
> a color code scheme.
> Perhaps there is an ANSI standard (they have standards for almost
> everythinng).
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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ - edited 2003-09-15 - 02:31:00Speaking of that, does anyone still make a cable with removeable shells?
Most everything I see has molded ends, which means you have to chop off
one end and put on a fresh connector if you need to make a custom cable.
> As Allan and others have said, there is not a standard for wire colors.
> Each factory lot will use the same color sequence, but different
> factories/lots will vary. We use a M-F DB9 cable for a commercial
> device, by cutting the cable at one end, discarding the connector, and
> wiring the cable to our circuits, using a few hundred per year. We try
> to buy from the same place, but periodically check the colors and pins
> to avoid circuit disasters. We like and use black cables from Jameco,
> to match our black instrument cases. - edited 2003-09-15 - 16:08:00Bad -- Black -- 0
boys -- Brown -- 1
race -- Red -- 2
our -- Orange -- 3
young -- Yellow -- 4
girls -- Green -- 5
behind -- Blue -- 6
victory -- Violet -- 7
garden -- Gray -- 8
walls -- White -- 9
Above is a non-bawdy version of the resistor
numbering color sequence, which DOES NOT apply
(necessarily) to RS-232. ('Bad boys rape our
young girls, but violet gives willingly' is
the 'PG-13' version)
Note that CAT-5 cable has Orange/Orange-Stripe,
Blue/Blue-Stripe, Green/Green-Stripe,
Brown/Brown-Stripe. This CAN be used for
RS-232 also.
--- In [email protected], 'Stephen H Chapman'
<chapman@t...> wrote:
> Now I lay me down to sleep
> With a roll of cable at my feet
> If I should die before I wake
> White, Blue, Orange, Green, Brown, Slate.
>
>Original Message> From: 'Allan Lane' <allan.lane@h...>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:23 AM
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: serial cable color coding
>
>
> > If you are a telephone man, with a 50-pair telephone
> > cable, you'd better have a standard for what pair
> > of wires goes where. If you're installing a
> > 50 foot 8-wire cable between a PC and a Modem, you have
> > a lot more lattitude.
> >
> > If you are installing an 'RS-232' 'Standard' cable
> > (ansi standard RS-232, RS-232b, RS-232c) well:
> > You could install a DB25 with all pins connected,
> > all pins defined -- but I don't think they spec
> > the color.
> >
> > You could install a DB25 with only the common 8
> > lines -- RX,TX, CTS,RTS, DCD,DTR,DTS, and Ground.
> > Oops, forgot 'RI' (ring) used by the PC as IRQ input.
> >
> > Or you could do DB9. Or you could do RJ45 (like
> > DEC and Stallion did). Or you could do 'three-wire'
> > (TX, RX and Ground).
> >
> > The point is: the RS-232 'Standard' came out so
> > early that it's evolved quite a lot, and been
> > used in MANY form factors. It's amazing
> > that it's as portable, and still works, as it is.
> > There IS a specification, but I really don't think
> > it calls out wire colors.
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], 'Albert Catano'
> > <acatano2002@y...> wrote:
> > > I do not think the color coding of cables is arbitrarily.
> > > If you look a telephoneman splicing hundreds of wires , they
> > follow
> > > a color code scheme.
> > > Perhaps there is an ANSI standard (they have standards for
almost
> > > everythinng).
> >
> >
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> > - edited 2003-09-15 - 18:31:00I collect these.
There are many variations on the Bad boys... I have also heard Bad Beer
Rots Our Young Guts but Vodka Goes Well.
Bad Betty runs over your garden but Violet Gray won't
Billy Brown Revives On Your Gin, But Values Good Whisky
Better Be Ready, Or Your Great Big Venture Goes West
Black Beetles Running On Your Garden Bring Very Good Weather
The one about batman is unrepeatable but the clean version is
Batman Bests Robin On Yonder Gotham Bridge; Very Good, Will Get
Superman Next
Al Williams
AWC
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http://www.al-williams.com/pak1.htm
>Original Message> From: Allan Lane [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:allan.lane@h...]
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:09 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: serial cable color coding
>
>
> Bad -- Black -- 0
> boys -- Brown -- 1
> race -- Red -- 2
> our -- Orange -- 3
> young -- Yellow -- 4
> girls -- Green -- 5
> behind -- Blue -- 6
> victory -- Violet -- 7
> garden -- Gray -- 8
> walls -- White -- 9
>
> Above is a non-bawdy version of the resistor
> numbering color sequence, which DOES NOT apply
> (necessarily) to RS-232. ('Bad boys rape our
> young girls, but violet gives willingly' is
> the 'PG-13' version)
>
> Note that CAT-5 cable has Orange/Orange-Stripe,
> Blue/Blue-Stripe, Green/Green-Stripe,
> Brown/Brown-Stripe. This CAN be used for
> RS-232 also.
>
> --- In [email protected], 'Stephen H Chapman'
> <chapman@t...> wrote:
> > Now I lay me down to sleep
> > With a roll of cable at my feet
> > If I should die before I wake
> > White, Blue, Orange, Green, Brown, Slate.
> >
> >Original Message> > From: 'Allan Lane' <allan.lane@h...>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:23 AM
> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: serial cable color coding
> >
> >
> > > If you are a telephone man, with a 50-pair telephone
> > > cable, you'd better have a standard for what pair
> > > of wires goes where. If you're installing a
> > > 50 foot 8-wire cable between a PC and a Modem, you have
> > > a lot more lattitude.
> > >
> > > If you are installing an 'RS-232' 'Standard' cable
> > > (ansi standard RS-232, RS-232b, RS-232c) well:
> > > You could install a DB25 with all pins connected,
> > > all pins defined -- but I don't think they spec
> > > the color.
> > >
> > > You could install a DB25 with only the common 8
> > > lines -- RX,TX, CTS,RTS, DCD,DTR,DTS, and Ground.
> > > Oops, forgot 'RI' (ring) used by the PC as IRQ input.
> > >
> > > Or you could do DB9. Or you could do RJ45 (like
> > > DEC and Stallion did). Or you could do 'three-wire'
> > > (TX, RX and Ground).
> > >
> > > The point is: the RS-232 'Standard' came out so
> > > early that it's evolved quite a lot, and been
> > > used in MANY form factors. It's amazing
> > > that it's as portable, and still works, as it is.
> > > There IS a specification, but I really don't think
> > > it calls out wire colors.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], 'Albert Catano'
> > > <acatano2002@y...> wrote:
> > > > I do not think the color coding of cables is
> arbitrarily. If you
> > > > look a telephoneman splicing hundreds of wires , they
> > > follow
> > > > a color code scheme.
> > > > Perhaps there is an ANSI standard (they have standards for
> almost
> > > > everythinng).
> > >
> > >
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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ - edited 2003-09-15 - 18:42:00Could you send me the R or X versions off list.
Larry Gaminde
Original MessageFrom: 'Al Williams' <alw@a...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: September 15, 2003 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: serial cable color coding
> I collect these.
>
> There are many variations on the Bad boys... I have also heard Bad Beer
> Rots Our Young Guts but Vodka Goes Well.
>
> Bad Betty runs over your garden but Violet Gray won't
>
> Billy Brown Revives On Your Gin, But Values Good Whisky
>
> Better Be Ready, Or Your Great Big Venture Goes West
>
> Black Beetles Running On Your Garden Bring Very Good Weather
>
> The one about batman is unrepeatable but the clean version is
> Batman Bests Robin On Yonder Gotham Bridge; Very Good, Will Get
> Superman Next
>
> Al Williams
> AWC
> * Add floating point math to your Stamp program:
> http://www.al-williams.com/pak1.htm
>
>
> >Original Message> > From: Allan Lane [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:allan.lane@h...]
> > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:09 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: serial cable color coding
> >
> >
> > Bad -- Black -- 0
> > boys -- Brown -- 1
> > race -- Red -- 2
> > our -- Orange -- 3
> > young -- Yellow -- 4
> > girls -- Green -- 5
> > behind -- Blue -- 6
> > victory -- Violet -- 7
> > garden -- Gray -- 8
> > walls -- White -- 9
> >
> > Above is a non-bawdy version of the resistor
> > numbering color sequence, which DOES NOT apply
> > (necessarily) to RS-232. ('Bad boys rape our
> > young girls, but violet gives willingly' is
> > the 'PG-13' version)
> >
> > Note that CAT-5 cable has Orange/Orange-Stripe,
> > Blue/Blue-Stripe, Green/Green-Stripe,
> > Brown/Brown-Stripe. This CAN be used for
> > RS-232 also.
> >
> > --- In [email protected], 'Stephen H Chapman'
> > <chapman@t...> wrote:
> > > Now I lay me down to sleep
> > > With a roll of cable at my feet
> > > If I should die before I wake
> > > White, Blue, Orange, Green, Brown, Slate.
> > >
> > >Original Message> > > From: 'Allan Lane' <allan.lane@h...>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:23 AM
> > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: serial cable color coding
> > >
> > >
> > > > If you are a telephone man, with a 50-pair telephone
> > > > cable, you'd better have a standard for what pair
> > > > of wires goes where. If you're installing a
> > > > 50 foot 8-wire cable between a PC and a Modem, you have
> > > > a lot more lattitude.
> > > >
> > > > If you are installing an 'RS-232' 'Standard' cable
> > > > (ansi standard RS-232, RS-232b, RS-232c) well:
> > > > You could install a DB25 with all pins connected,
> > > > all pins defined -- but I don't think they spec
> > > > the color.
> > > >
> > > > You could install a DB25 with only the common 8
> > > > lines -- RX,TX, CTS,RTS, DCD,DTR,DTS, and Ground.
> > > > Oops, forgot 'RI' (ring) used by the PC as IRQ input.
> > > >
> > > > Or you could do DB9. Or you could do RJ45 (like
> > > > DEC and Stallion did). Or you could do 'three-wire'
> > > > (TX, RX and Ground).
> > > >
> > > > The point is: the RS-232 'Standard' came out so
> > > > early that it's evolved quite a lot, and been
> > > > used in MANY form factors. It's amazing
> > > > that it's as portable, and still works, as it is.
> > > > There IS a specification, but I really don't think
> > > > it calls out wire colors.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], 'Albert Catano'
> > > > <acatano2002@y...> wrote:
> > > > > I do not think the color coding of cables is
> > arbitrarily. If you
> > > > > look a telephoneman splicing hundreds of wires , they
> > > > follow
> > > > > a color code scheme.
> > > > > Perhaps there is an ANSI standard (they have standards for
> > almost
> > > > > everythinng).
> > > >
> > > >
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> - edited 2003-09-16 - 01:05:00Just remember, B is blue, while black is K on alot of diagrams.
> I collect these.
>
> There are many variations on the Bad boys... I have also heard Bad Beer
> Rots Our Young Guts but Vodka Goes Well.
>
> Bad Betty runs over your garden but Violet Gray won't
>
> Billy Brown Revives On Your Gin, But Values Good Whisky
>
> Better Be Ready, Or Your Great Big Venture Goes West
>
> Black Beetles Running On Your Garden Bring Very Good Weather
>
> The one about batman is unrepeatable but the clean version is
> Batman Bests Robin On Yonder Gotham Bridge; Very Good, Will Get
> Superman Next